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- Date: Mon, 25 Apr 94 10:33:53 PDT
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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #457
- To: Info-Hams
-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Mon, 25 Apr 94 Volume 94 : Issue 457
-
- Today's Topics:
- ACC
- Acceptable use of HAM radio
- Elmers! Help a newbie prepare for Dayton
- FCC computers
- Help, no license yet!
- Looking for any and all info on LoJak
- Mis-Posting of ORBS$
- Non-US callsign ID's (5 msgs)
- RS Sale on Handhelds ????
- SWR & Power Loss (3 msgs)
- tcpip coordinator in TN?
- The Confiscated HT Story (was Illinois anti scanner legisla)
- What are the dimensions for a 2m J-pole?
-
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-
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- (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams".
-
- We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Apr 1994 09:30:38 -0400
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!prism!prism!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: ACC
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- FMUS1184@VEGA.SELU.EDU (ROBERT G. PRIEZ) writes:
-
-
- >Here are two references I have for Advanced Computer Controls:
-
- > |ACC company now on email:
- > |Internet electronic mail by using the address: 72114.2062@compuserve.com
-
- >or to subscribe to the acc-l list send the SUBSCRIBE command to:
-
- > |Mail-Server@slic.cts.com.
- > |Please note that commands are sent to Mail-Server and postings or
- > |replies are sent to the list at acc-l@slic.cts.com.
-
- >WB5FBS
- >bobpriez@selu.edu
-
- Just a quick note here about the ACC-L mailing list...
-
- It is hosted on gitvm1.gatech.edu (gitvm1.bitnet for those in both worlds).
- If you have trouble getting to Mike's mirror on slic.cts.com then you can
- send mail to listserv@gitvm1.gatech.edu. In the body of your mail message,
- put "subscribe acc-l your-name". Replace "your-name" with the name you wish
- to have appear on outbound messages from you. Please don't use psuedo names or
- "handles" on the list.
-
- As always, problems or questions can be sent to me (I am the list owner and
- am responsible for it if it breaks (: ) at the address(es) in my .sig.
-
- The folks at ACC are subscribed to the list via their Compu$erve account, but
- I have no idea how often they check for mail.
-
- Enjoy,
-
- Monte KC4GPW
-
-
- --
- Monte Freeman -- Operations Department / Information Technology
- Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
- Internet: ccoprfm@prism.gatech.edu
- Bitnet: ccoprfm@gitvm1.bitnet
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Apr 94 15:20:20 GMT
- From: ncrgw2.ncr.com!ncrhub2!tdbunews!nsc32!wps@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Acceptable use of HAM radio
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Sure sounds like an ARES event. Many events like walk-a-thons, parades,
- bike races, to name a few, have been done by ARES members.
-
- Bill
-
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- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Apr 1994 12:12:53 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eff!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.itd.umich.edu!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Elmers! Help a newbie prepare for Dayton
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- This is the first time I'll be attending the HamVention
- (had my ticket one year) and I'm hoping all the experts
- can give me a leg up on do's and don'ts to make the most
- of the trip. I'll be attending Thur - Sun. I'd really
- appreciate any suggestions! I'm looking into satellite
- work if that would make any difference.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 14:13:34 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!mixcom.com!kevin.jessup@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: FCC computers
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In <042394000906Rnf0.77b9@amcomp.com> dan@amcomp.com (Dan Pickersgill) writes:
-
- >jlw3@cec3.wustl.edu (Jesse L Wei) writes:
-
- >>Here's the latest FCC laugh -- I called the Gettysburg office today and
- >>the first thing I heard was "our computers are down. . ."
- >>
- >>Go figure. . .Does this mean processing times will fall another week behind???
- >>
- >>--jesse
-
- >Depends on how much time the people at Gettysburg spend on the phone
- >answering questions vs. issuing licenses.
-
- I doubt if those who do the FCC license paper work (all two of them :-)
- also maintain the computer systems. Anyway, all government computer and
- network techs are busy trying to keep the IRS computers online! ;-))
-
- BTW, what kind of computer are thay running over in Gettysburg? A
- PDP 1123 with the washing-machine sized drives?? On the otherhand,
- even RSX11 is better than DOS!!
-
- --
- /`-_ kevin.jessup@mixcom.com
- { }/ Marquette Electronics, Inc
- \ / N9SQB, ARRL, Amateur Radio
- |__*| N9SQB @ WD9ANY.#MKE.WI.USA.NA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Apr 1994 15:41:42 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.uoregon.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!owl.csrv.uidaho.edu!raven.csrv.uidaho.edu!cross901@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Help, no license yet!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Can anyone help me? I passed my test to become a no-code tech six months
- ago, and I haven't received my license yet. A couple month ago, I found
- out that the FCC lost all my paper work, so I had to send my paperwork in
- again. They said that they were going to put a rush on it and that it
- would only take four weeks.
-
- I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could tell me why it takes so
- long to get a license. Also, if anyone could speed my license along
- would also be appreciated.
-
- My name is Rich Crossler and I live in Moscow, Idaho. My friend who gave
- me the test was KA1POR. He has been trying to contact the ARRL to see if
- they can shed some light on the difficulties.
-
- Thank you for your time.
-
- Rich
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Apr 1994 13:41:17 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!carnadmin.gatech.edu!user@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Looking for any and all info on LoJak
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Message cross-posted to
- :rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics,rec.autos.tech
-
-
- I am looking for information about LoJak auto recovery system. I am
- interested in how it works, what frequency/ies it uses, how it is
- activated, and any and all other information on this product.
-
- Please email me. I will post a summary/FAQ if there is sufficeint
- response.
-
- Ben
- bscott@bnext.gatech.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 07:13:13 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!pacbell.com!unet!loren!larson@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Mis-Posting of ORBS$
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CSLE87-210494100755@145.39.1.10> CSLE87@email.mot.com (Karl Beckman) writes:
-
- >RAY: Please note that your posting of orbital data files should be
- >restricted to the rec.radio.amateur.SPACE newsgroup only. Please do not
- >cross-post them into this newsgroup. If you are unsure about this
- >procedure, please check with AMSAT or the r.r.amateur.info group moderator
- >for more assistance.
-
-
- Sorry, Karl, I disagree. The orbital data has been posted here
- for some time, and is useful to us.
-
- I just wanted to make it clear that not all of the readers of this
- group agree with Karl -- I think the elements here is quite reasonable.
-
- I disagree with Karl appointing himself to speak for the rest of us.
-
- Alan
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Apr 1994 14:17:19 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!eff!news.duke.edu!acpub.duke.edu!thomasr@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Non-US callsign ID's
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I have just made my first DX contacts on 10-meters and the two
- gentlemen requested QSO cards. Is there a telnet site where I can
- find addresses for international callsigns. cs.buffalo.edu 2000 did
- not recognize the signs.
-
- HR2JAE Honduras Central America
- P43WLP Paraguay name was William
-
- As my first DX successes, I felt pretty satisfied. I was using an
- HTX-100, running 25 watts into a 16+ ft dipole strung as an inverted V
- in my garage attic. Just takes patience I suppose!!
- Thanks,
- Ron Thomas
- thomasr@acpub.duke.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Apr 1994 15:24:09 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!cville-srv.wam.umd.edu!ham@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Non-US callsign ID's
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- > I have just made my first DX contacts on 10-meters and the two
- >gentlemen requested QSO cards. Is there a telnet site where I can
- >find addresses for international callsigns. cs.buffalo.edu 2000 did
- >not recognize the signs.
- >
- > HR2JAE Honduras Central America
- > P43WLP Paraguay name was William
- >
- > As my first DX successes, I felt pretty satisfied. I was using an
- >HTX-100, running 25 watts into a 16+ ft dipole strung as an inverted V
- >in my garage attic. Just takes patience I suppose!!
- >Thanks,
- >Ron Thomas
-
- Hmmm, seems to me that P43WLP would be from Aruba. And that's a pretty
- long callsign for a station from Aruba. The prefix for Paraguay is "ZP."
-
- Unfortunately, I know of no DX callsign server around. Maybe someone
- else will. Just figured I'd bring the callsign discrepancy to your
- attention.
-
- Scott NF3I
-
- --
- 73, _________ _________ The
- \ / Long Original
- Scott Rosenfeld Amateur Radio NF3I Burtonsville, MD | Live $5.00
- WAC-CW/SSB WAS DXCC - 125 QSLed on dipoles __________| Dipoles! Antenna!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Apr 1994 15:49:07 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.duke.edu!acpub.duke.edu!thomasr@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Non-US callsign ID's
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Sorry for the error in my posting of two callsigns I am trying to find routes
- for. The callsign given to me as P43WLP was INDEED from Aruba, and not from
- Paraguay. I read the wrong line while I was typing.
- ron thomas
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 16:01:08 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!fc.hp.com!jayk@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Non-US callsign ID's
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- : > P43WLP Paraguay name was William
- : >Ron Thomas
-
- : Hmmm, seems to me that P43WLP would be from Aruba. And that's a pretty
- : long callsign for a station from Aruba. The prefix for Paraguay is "ZP."
- : Scott NF3I
-
- Yes that should be a Aruba callsign. Since his first name is William he
- likely requested his initials. Its easy to get the call of you choice in
- many countries.
-
- But to answer the original question if you plan to work and 'QSL'
- lots of DX stations a DX Callbook is a good investment. ^^^
-
- 73, Jay K0GU jayk@fc.hp.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 16:04:17 +0000
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!demon!g8sjp.demon.co.uk!ip@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Non-US callsign ID's
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2pgnap$gen@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>
- ham@wam.umd.edu "Scott Richard Rosenfeld" quotes:
- writes:
-
- > > HR2JAE Honduras Central America
- > > P43WLP Paraguay name was William
- > >
-
- and goes on to say:
-
- > Hmmm, seems to me that P43WLP would be from Aruba. And that's a pretty
- > long callsign for a station from Aruba. The prefix for Paraguay is "ZP."
-
- Yup. Aruba. The call is valid, too:
- William L. Philips, Box 2035
-
- >
- > Unfortunately, I know of no DX callsign server around. Maybe someone
- > else will. Just figured I'd bring the callsign discrepancy to your
- > attention.
-
- What discrepancy would that be?
-
- >
- > Scott NF3I
-
- --
- Iain Philipps
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 15:25:22 GMT
- From: src.dec.com!crl.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!ryn.mro.dec.com!est.enet.dec.com!randolph@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: RS Sale on Handhelds ????
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <766770441.AA09238@rochgte.fidonet.org>, Brad.Ward@f2711.n206.z1.fidonet.org (Brad Ward) writes...
- > JD> didn't support the users of their first system. If I were you I'd stay
- > JD> away from the RS products and buy your handheld from a reputible ham
- > JD> radio manufacturer.
- >
- > On the contrary, Radio Shack is a 'reputible ham radio manufacturer.'
- > Many of my friends on the air, as well as myself, have the 2M rig, and
- > have had no or minimal problems with it.
-
- Yes, in fact I know of at least one 202 that's taken a bit of a beating over
- its life, with zero problems. Nice little radio, with all of the bells and
- whistles, at a good price. You don't get wide-band receive. This is bad if you
- want it, but it's good if you want an interference-free radio.
- -Tom R. N1OOQ randolph@est.enet.dec.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Apr 94 14:48:34 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!aries!hawley@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: SWR & Power Loss
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- nx7u@aol.com (NX7U) writes:
-
- >In article <1994Apr25.034740.8791@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary
- >Coffman) writes:
-
- >>This article, and other material I've seen, pooh-pooh the idea of a low
- >>SWR. (Maybe I should preface this by saying I'm not a 1:1 SWR fanatic,
- >>though. :-) These articles say that as long as you have low-loss cable,
- >>most of the energy bouncing back and forth between the transmitter and
- >>the antenna ends up going out the antenna anyway.
-
- >>My question is: since the transmitter is matched to the line, why does
- >>the reflected energy coming from the antenna get reflected again at the
- >>transmitter? Why isn't it all (or mostly) absorbed in the finals?
-
- >Well it depends. The precise scenario you describe is correct (I believe)--if
- >the final amp is really Z0 ohms output feeding a transmission line of z0 ohms
- >characteristic impedance, then any reverse travelling wave sees no mismatch at
- >that junction, and that power is absorbed by the amplifier and essentially
- >converted to heat.
- ????
- >Which would explain why your fan on that solid-state rig runs harder when
- >you're delivering into a crappy load :-)
- >If there is a tuner involved it's a different story. The tuner establishes a
- >conjugate match at the amp/line junction, so there *is* a mismatch there.
- >Reflected energy re-reflected from the amp/line junction, and any power not
- >reflected is again dissipated in the amp as heat. The point of the conjugate
- >match is to insure that the re-reflected voltage appears essentially in phase
- >with the original incident voltage to maximize the power transfer.
- >The problem with using the tuner at the TX output is that the SWR of the line
- >can cause additive heat losses in the coax beyond the nominal dB/100'
- >specification. This occurs because at current peaks in the standing wave on
- >the coax, there's more I2R loss. Although the SWR has to get pretty high (like
- >10:1) for this phenomenon to have much effect.
- I think this explanation is kind of mixed up, or too simple, or something.
- What about the current minimums, isn't the I2R loss there less than the matched
- case? This "reflected power is converted to heat in the amplifier" thing bothers
- me too. If I were an amplifier and the load didn't want all the power, I just
- wouldn't generate as much power.
- Chuck KE9UW, Urbana, IL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 25 Apr 1994 15:56:03 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!noc.near.net!das-news.harvard.edu!cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!news@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: SWR & Power Loss
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- > This occurs because at current peaks in the standing wave on
- > >the coax, there's more I2R loss. Although the SWR has to get pretty
- high (like
- > >10:1) for this phenomenon to have much effect.
- > I think this explanation is kind of mixed up, or too simple, or
- something.
- > What about the current minimums, isn't the I2R loss there less than the
- matched
- > case?
-
- I thought it was dielectric losses at the voltage maximums, which
- is why untuned dipoles matched with tuners work best with air spaced
- ladder lines. You can run a high swr between the tuner and dipole
- without the high losses coax would have in such a mismatched situation.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Apr 94 18:04:25 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: SWR & Power Loss
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Text item: Text_1
-
- >My question is: since the transmitter is matched to the line, why does
- >the reflected energy coming from the antenna get reflected again at the
- >transmitter? Why isn't it all (or mostly) absorbed in the finals?
- >Ed Haymore | AA6EJ ed@byu.edu | Live long and prosper.
-
- Hi Ed, I loved Gary's "spitting into a firehose" analogy and the 100%
- theoretical reflection of reflected power is correct due to the
- conjugate match at the antenna tuner. I measure 100w out of my
- transmitter into my antenna tuner. I measure 150w forward power out
- of my antenna tuner. Neglecting losses, that means that 50w is being
- reflected and re-reflected so I am actually radiating 100w. The two
- things that cause SWR not to matter is the near-100% re-reflection of
- reflected power at the antenna tuner and near-lossless transmission
- line. It leaves reflected power with but one choice... RADIATE!
-
- 73, KG7BK, CecilMoore@delphi.com (I do not speak for Intel)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Apr 94 12:11:32 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: tcpip coordinator in TN?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Who is the tcpip coordinator in TN? I have a recent list but that person
- says they are no longer the coordinator. Who is actually passing out the
- numbers??? Please send reply direct if you know! Thanks!
- --
- Richard Clemens, KB8AOB clemens@max.chatham.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Apr 94 16:47:17 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: The Confiscated HT Story (was Illinois anti scanner legisla)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <9404200545592.DLITE.gilbaronw0mn@delphi.com>,
- Gilbert Baron <gilbaronw0mn@delphi.com> wrote:
- >
- >This is the second story of this type that I have heard. I think it is
- >antoher URBAN LEGEND myself. They would have no right to confiscate and
- >anyone who brought the ht along would have to be pretty stupid anyway.
- >Criminal act, give me a break.
- >
- Well Gil, I agree that this story has the potential to become an urban
- legend, which is why I posted the synopses of the press coverage from last
- year: to correct the errors from the original post. The fact is, it
- happened. Yes, it would appear that the San Diego Sheriff had no legal
- authority to confiscate the HT, but the department, with the aid of the
- local FCC Field Engineer, did succeed in coercing Chris to "voluntarily"
- donate his HT to the SD RACES rather than face prosecution. The last I
- heard, the San Diego County Supervisors voted to decline the "gift",
- although that part I have not been able to confirm. One thing that came out
- last year when this story was fresh that I did not note in my earlier post
- is that at about the same time as Chris used his HT on the Sheriff's
- frequency to summon aid, another person was causing malicious interference
- on Sheriff's frequencies. The word is that the two together greatly
- irritated the Sheriff and drove the coercive activity that relieved Chris
- of his HT.
-
- Since I'm a little too far North to follow the San Diego papers, does
- anyone from SD have the actual current status of this story?
- _____________________________________________________________________
- Wm. A. Kirsanoff Internet: WAKIRSAN@ananov.remnet.ab.com
- Rockwell International Ham: KD6MCI
- (714) 762-2872
- Alternate Internet: william_a._kirsanoff@ccmail.anatcp.rockwell.com
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------
- Who are you? * I am number 2. * Who is number 1? * You are number 6.
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 25 Apr 1994 13:22:55 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!prairienet.org!bpea@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: What are the dimensions for a 2m J-pole?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I just built a copper j-pole out of 1/2" copper tubing. It works
- great (even if I say sio myself) :-)
-
- Here are the diminsions I used, swr is well below 1.3 all across
- the band:
-
- Reflector - 57.375"
- Stub - 19.125"
- Gap - 1.250"
- Feedpoint - ~2.500"
-
- The antenna was designed for 146.00MHz.
-
- Good luck !
-
- Bruce,N9WKE
-
- ------------------------------
-
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